Dart charges and parking fine Baliff’s visits

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Soarx1969
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Dart charges and parking fine Baliff’s visits

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Hi I’m hoping someone can help. I really don’t know what way to turn. I had an old van sat on my drive for about 3yrs and was SORN all that time. I advertised it one one of the Facebook sales pages last year and sold it to a guy for scrap as it really wasn’t fit for the road. I couldn’t find the logbook anywhere but they guy told me to just write a letter to Dvla saying it was scrapped and that would be fine. I gave him a hand written receipt.
I have been getting quite a few dartford toll fines and a parking fine and now even a no road tax fine. After loosing my mum in October i hit deep depression and buried my head and now I’m getting Baliff’s knocking on my door wanting to take my home away. The toll charges are over £1100 and then Saturday I found a letter stuck through my door which was 1st point of contact from Newlyn and is a control of goods notice for a parking fine. They have also txt me today saying I’ve ignored their final warning (which I’m guessing is the control of goods letter) and are saying they will be sending and agent out!
Ive attached photos of their letters. just don’t know what to do.
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Even if you sold the vehicle, you are still (technically) liable for the contraventions because liability resides with the keeper until the keeper names the driver, or you complete the seller slip portion of the V5. The DVLA will argue that you could have got as replacement V5 if you mislaid it.

To deal with the traffic debts, you make an out of time witness statement on a form TE9 and TE7 to explain why you did not receive the Notice to Owner and then you will have an opportunity to name the driver - the person who bought the van.

To deal with the road tax fine, you need to make representation to defend the allegation by making a statement giving the date and evidence to whom you sold the vehicle. If you received a bailiff before you knew you had been convicted then you can do a Section 14 statutory Declaration.

Bailiffs cannot take your home. Provided the door is securely locked, they have no power to enter. DO NOT open the door to a bailiff, they will push they way in and the only way to get rid of them is to film him with your mobile and disable the bathroom door locks and he will eventually need to leave to use the toilet. Follow these guidelines to protect yourself from bailiffs.

The two documents you posted up are not statutory ones, they are merely pretend notices with bold print to scare you. This is what an official notice of enforcement looks like.
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Thank you so much for your quick reply. Would you recommend contacting either baliff company as they are both threatening to send people straight away. Could they take my car?
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They can take your car, so secure it by parking it on a neighbour's driveway, or away from the property.

Do not contact the bailiff or his company.
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Thank you
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DO NOT open the door to a bailiff, they will push they way in and the only way to get rid of them is to film him with your mobile and disable the bathroom door locks and he will eventually need to leave to use the toilet.
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That has actually happened.

After about 5 hours inside the property going room to room and refused private access to the bathroom, and his phone almost out of charge, the bailiff called the police and both left the property because the liability order had the clients previous address.

The bailiff drove away in his van around the corner and pulled up. The client followed and approached the passenger window of the van and the bailiff was peeing into a bottle.
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Have just received this txt in relation to the attached earlier baliff letter. Is this actually an order from the court and can they do this please?
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You can report the text messages online as a text pest. https://www.nationalbailiffadvice.uk/Sp ... liffs.html

The document you have displayed is not compliant because of a bailiff must follow certain procedures to take control of goods. Putting a document emblazoned with "Control of Goods" is not one of them. You can park the document in the bin.

This M.O of sending nuisance texts and documents is when a bailiff cannot recover the money and its a last throw of the dice.
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The letter is a hand delivered one given at the enforcement stage and legislation does not state what is must or must not say, so there is nothing it needs to comply with. It's simply to make you aware that they visited so they can add the £235 enforcement stage fee.

Did you follow the advice in post #2?
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