PCN's dimissed in Guildford county court followed by DCBL visit

[Syd Snitkin]

I will be exploring all avenues to take this to a full complaint with CIVEA and/or the HCEO. I couldnt live with myself knowing I hadnt at least tried to stop Gary acting as if he is above the law and mistreating debtors.

The HCEO lives in Florida so she won't give a fanny. Civea only look after their members.... although I have heard that a Civea member called Syd Thompson wants to bring Gaz down - here's his LinkedIn page> https://www.linkedin.com/in/syd-thompson-a78a8645/

[Poker man]

And here's hoping a few more crap on your trousers Gaz mate.

The sheer volume of complaints does lead to make one consider where the truth lies, don't it though? You've already admitted that you're prepared to scare a debtor by following them in your car, pulling up alongside to 'talk' to them (yeh, we've got the pics Gaz), and you've told us that a colleague preloads the fees (did you consider informing your bosses Gaz, or was he just following your lead? Or perhaps you saw a good thing and followed suit?).

Here's a task for you Gaz, have a look round the various forums and FB pages and see how many times complaints about DCBL overcharging and misleading comes up.

I'm sure DCBL appear in many complaints just like all other enforcement companies. I'm not sure that I "admitted" scaring a debtor and I didn't say the other agents were colleagues. I doubt me telling you that will make a difference or change your opinion of me, but I don't mind as I deal with idiots who refuse to accept the truth on a regular basis.

[Syd Snitkin]

Nice to know you consider debtors as 'idiots' Gaz. Tell me, by following a debtor down a busy A-road, flashing your lights, pulling up alongside him and telling him to wind his window down, did it not cross your meaty head that you might be scaring them? You never did show us the part from the legislation that permits that, but at least we can now add it to any future EAC2 complaints. Thanks Gaz.

You've also given us the heads up on Syd Thompson, so we now know the first point of call should we need to involve Civea in anything. Again, thanks mate.

[dannny]

I will be exploring all avenues to take this to a full complaint with CIVEA and/or the HCEO. I couldnt live with myself knowing I hadnt at least tried to stop Gary acting as if he is above the law and mistreating debtors.

The HCEO lives in Florida so she won't give a fanny. Civea only look after their members.... although I have heard that a Civea member called Syd Thompson wants to bring Gaz down - here's his LinkedIn page> https://www.linkedin.com/in/syd-thompson-a78a8645/

https://www.hceoa.org.uk/

Doesnt look like Florida to me

[Syd Snitkin]

Doesnt look like Florida to me

Claire Sandbrook is the authorised HCEO for DCBL, so all writs are addressed to her. Gaz and his goons are merely agents enforcing under her authority. Lady Sandbrook lives in Florida so how she can exercise due diligence, as is expected, is anyone's guess.

[John The Baptist]

I'm sure you will hear many more allegations about me to add to the long list of disgruntled debtors. Will it stop me or even slow me down? Absolutely not! What I will ask is that you remain open-minded and consider the possibility that it may not be exactly as the complainant describes. I don't treat people like the Germans did when they invaded Poland, nor do I video women getting dressed, but it won't stop these deluded individuals making those claims.

Gary - Part and parcel of your job is that you are going to receive many vexatious complaints about your actions. I am open minded enough to accept that many are unfounded and driven by a desire of revenge/retribution. By the same token, your industry has an appalling track record and is still decades behind bodies such as the police force. A few years ago, the LGO upheld around 33% of complaints made against bailiffs. That is one third of all complaints. I wonder how many Jan Holmes upholds? I think we both know that it will be on or around the 0% mark don't we?

I also think that your comment about "idiots refusing to accept the truth" is very telling. It's funny how all of these so called idiots miraculously accept the truth once you've managed to reach the sale stage isn't it? You must be one of the most unfortunate HCEOs out there, having that many "idiots refusing to accept the truth". It's just a coincidence that by them doing so, your pockets are lined with double the amount of money than if they'd have "accepted the truth" in the first place.

Nobody suggests that you video women getting dressed and to accuse another man of sexual wrongdoing without evidence is the lowest of the low. However, you must surely see how people would feel violated by a stranger entering their home uninvited and being threatened with having their goods removed and being placed under untold pressure. How would you expect people to describe it? A picnic in the park?

I am open minded about you and your work. I appreciate that you have a job to do in difficult circumstances (although I doubt High Court enforcement is as difficult as recovering fines or PCNs). I know that you add those sale fees when they weren't supposed to have been added and you know that I know. Was Danny an "idiot who refused to accept the truth" because he hadn't been given any forewarning that enforcement was imminent? Should he have had the sale fee added because he was in total shock when you ambushed him? HCEOs deal with one off debtors who are normally willing to cooperate. They are far less likely to be the hardened PCN or fine defaulters. To add sale fees is usually not needed and uncalled for.

I know it doesn't matter to you and whatever the circumstances, you usually manage to turn the situation into the sale stage. I would ask that you try to be a bit more open minded and think about the pain and misery you leave behind when you add those non compliant fees. As I said originally, what goes around comes around and when you do bad, you usually pay for it at some time further on in your life. This is not a threat by the way, it is just something I always work to and believe happens.

[John The Baptist]

I will be exploring all avenues to take this to a full complaint with CIVEA and/or the HCEO. I couldnt live with myself knowing I hadnt at least tried to stop Gary acting as if he is above the law and mistreating debtors.

The HCEO lives in Florida so she won't give a fanny. Civea only look after their members.... although I have heard that a Civea member called Syd Thompson wants to bring Gaz down - here's his LinkedIn page> https://www.linkedin.com/in/syd-thompson-a78a8645/

https://www.hceoa.org.uk/

Doesnt look like Florida to me

DCBL think they are a law unto themselves. They are not members of the HCEOA and are generally despised by the rest of the enforcement industry. It is one of the very few things that this forum and the enforcement industry agree on.

[Poker man]

I also think that your comment about "idiots refusing to accept the truth" is very telling.

My comment is directed at people who make deliberately vexatious complaints. Mr Westbrook knew I didn't video his wife getting dressed and Mrs Westbrook certainly knew I didn't, but it didn't stop him calling me a "sex case peeping tom" in a letter to the court amongst other despicable things on here. I find it unacceptable that people be allowed to say these things without consequence, but I think it's only a matter of time before defendants of vexatious complaints are awarded costs just like I was when the judge found the Westbrooks to have abused the complaints process.

[dannny]

Its easier for Garys conscience to point the finger at everyone else than take any responsibility for his own conduct. Its a sorry state of affairs that our legal system allows someone like him to operate in the way that he does.

[Syd Snitkin]

Oyoy, Gaz is on telly again.

[Poker man]

Oyoy, Gaz is on telly again.

Enjoy. No doubt you’ll try and pick holes in this too

[Syd Snitkin]

You think I want to actually watch it?

[Poker man]

Yes I do. I think you admire me and that you’re jealous of my success.

[Syd Snitkin]

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Moving from one reviled job to another, harassing women, criminal record, having to shack up with a single mum just to get somewhere to live, face like a baboon's arse? Yeh Gaz mate, reeeeeeally jealous.

[Poker man]

What you’re watching on TV now is how perseverance and tenacity can get results.

[Syd Snitkin]

Sorry Gaz, the missus turned it over to something with Dawn French on. You still hoping to get down to her 2010 weight?

[zeke]

I will be exploring all avenues to take this to a full complaint with CIVEA and/or the HCEO.

They are private companies. They won't do anything that favour debtors. Their role is to lobby the government to get better laws to suit the enforcement industry.

[zeke]

I also think that your comment about "idiots refusing to accept the truth" is very telling.

My comment is directed at people who make deliberately vexatious complaints. Mr Westbrook knew I didn't video his wife getting dressed and Mrs Westbrook certainly knew I didn't, but it didn't stop him calling me a "sex case peeping tom" in a letter to the court

Gentlemen.

I am not privy to the content of the Westbrook complaint, and in any case, he didn't make an EAC2, but as it is a proceeding still in progress, we cannot discuss them in a public forum.

[zeke]

What you’re watching on TV now is how perseverance and tenacity can get results.

I've never actually seen the TV show. Only client CCTV footage of you with a pair of youngsters with a digital camera. Apparently the "TV crew".

Either, my livingroom telly is commandeered by the kids, or we don't have Channel 5 out here in the Philippines.

But interestingly, I have made umpteen section 10's on the production company, all of them get angry responses from the producer, Sue Crook.

I also prepared two of the claims that Channel 5 are paying out for broadcasting my clients without permission or payment of royalties. Given the money paid out in lawyers fees, I'm surprised the show is still tenable.

[John The Baptist]

I also think that your comment about "idiots refusing to accept the truth" is very telling.

My comment is directed at people who make deliberately vexatious complaints. Mr Westbrook knew I didn't video his wife getting dressed and Mrs Westbrook certainly knew I didn't, but it didn't stop him calling me a "sex case peeping tom" in a letter to the court

Gentlemen.

I am not privy to the content of the Westbrook complaint, and in any case, he didn't make an EAC2, but as it is a proceeding still in progress, we cannot discuss them in a public forum.

Nigel

I have not discussed any case on a public forum. We have all made various points and criticisms of Gary and to his credit, he has come on here to tell his side of things. If he was accused of being a "Peeping Tom" on the forum then he has the right to point out that a judge didn't agree.

[Poker man]

I've never actually seen the TV show. Only client CCTV footage of you with a pair of youngsters with a digital camera. Apparently the "TV crew".

I have no idea what that’s all about. Can you tell me which area it was in? Was I even in uniform?

Either, my livingroom telly is commandeered by the kids, or we don't have Channel 5 out here in the Philippines.

I thought you lived in Crawley also, but then heard you moved to Teddington.

[zeke]

Umm, Teddington? Crawley was the creative imaginative wishful thinking of Sheila Harding.

The CCTV belonged to a client, and you were in uniform if you call it one. Body armour, white shirt and black trousers.

[Poker man]

Then I probably was filming, but the camera they use is a piece of equipment worth £40,000. What area of the county was I in?

I’ve always believed you live in Crawley. I saw it either on your last username on here or your Facebook page.

[Syd Snitkin]

Still no answers for the OP Gaz?

[Poker man]

Still no answers for the OP Gaz?

This isn’t the appropriate forum to respond to debtor’s complaints, besides, it’s not for me to respond to anymore anyway. I reassured him that he wasn’t duped, but that’s as much as I’m prepared to say.

On a side note, I won’t be responding to anymore of your comments as you just seem extremely bitter and twisted. You don’t know me and you only want to focus on the negatives rather than the big picture. I don’t believe you’re Syd Thompson anymore as I don’t think he would have been as immature in his comments. I’m more inclined to believe you’re a disgruntled debtor angry at the system.

[Syd Snitkin]

Immature? Me? Says you Mr Poopy-pants.

Truth is Gaz I don't understand why anyone would want to be a bailiff - the only reason I can think of is that they enjoy the power of bullying vulnerable people, such as those in financial hardship, or mental health problems and so forth. It doesn't go without notice that a majority of bailiffs are fat, shaven headed ex-military, ex-police or ex-borstal who crave the image of the 'big man'. You fit two of those don't you?

In this day and age bailiffs are an archaic tool when there are so many other options to enforce debts. These days, most monetary transactions are electronic and various orders can be used to collect payment, or withhold benefits or tax credits without the need of increasing an already unmanageable debt.

The likes of you, Brian the Hutt, Wiggy Bohill and Levi Bellfield are nothing more than parasites, getting fat off the misery of others whilst deceiving and intimidating women and children and I hold each and every one of you in contempt - some more than others and you, Gaz mate, are in the top ten. You and DCBL are in the group that ensures the whole trade has a bad name due to your habits of overcharging, lying about your powers and intimidation. You delude yourself that it's always the debtor that's lying, yet your name crops up time and time again with the same accusations. It's no coincidence is it Gaz?

Don't you think that it's telling that your trade has needed to have legislative intervention to stop the vile practices? Even then the unlawful behaviour continues and more changes are needed to be made.

[zeke]

Then I probably was filming, but the camera they use is a piece of equipment worth £40,000.

It looked like a digital camera from Jessops.

If you weren't in the footage, I would have dismissed it as a pair of kids playing with a camera. I'd never believed this was a professional TV crew.

I find it strange you know the value of the camera. In another clip from a different client, you said the pair of youngsters were nothing to do with you. In that clip, one of them was shining a bright light and you were clocked turning up before 6 am.

[Poker man]

It looked like a digital camera from Jessops.

If you weren't in the footage, I would have dismissed it as a pair of kids playing with a camera. I'd never believed this was a professional TV crew.

Maybe I was enforcing against their parents, but they definitely weren’t with me.

[dannny]

So its an EAC2 that I should look to complain against Garys conduct with?

[dannny]

Gaz - we can now advise anyone who says they didn't receive the NOE that your office keeps a proof of postage, showing date, time and postcode for each one they send. Perhaps you can provide the OP of this thread a copy of his?

I contacted DCBL this morning to try and obtain the proof of postage. I originally spoke with Fran who said she was going to email it over to me straight away (which I have recorded) yet nothing was received. I called them to ask if it had been sent and they are now stating I must wait 5 working days for a response. They are refusing to confirm if this response will include the proof of postage.

[zeke]

Eac2 is about fitness to hold a certificate rather than conduct.

I prefer detailed assessment because we can churn them out in minutes using computer software and the solicitor earns indemnity costs. We dont have to give notice, and eventually they can be rolled out like a sausage machine.

[John The Baptist]

So its an EAC2 that I should look to complain against Garys conduct with?

No. Just focus on getting your money back. See what the application brings and as a last resort, do the detailed assessment.

There are no grounds to complain about Gary.

[zeke]

they are now stating I must wait 5 working days for a response. They are refusing to confirm if this response will include the proof of postage.

It means the bailiff company fails to comply with 7.3.

After the claim is brought, defendant bailiff company cannot produce the certificate because they should have done so before the proceedings.

[dannny]

No. Just focus on getting your money back. See what the application brings and as a last resort, do the detailed assessment.

There are no grounds to complain about Gary.

In your opinion there are no ground to complain about Gary but I am sorry I disagree.

[John The Baptist]

No. Just focus on getting your money back. See what the application brings and as a last resort, do the detailed assessment.

There are no grounds to complain about Gary.

In your opinion there are no ground to complain about Gary but I am sorry I disagree.

That's fine. Everyone is entitled to an opinion. You had much experience with EAC2s? Are you aware that you can end up several thousand pounds out of pocket if you lose one?